(English is belowed)
最近翻照片翻到了2017年,我最愛的鼓手 Antonio Sánchez 帶著他的樂團 Migration 來台灣 河岸留言 演出,想起了之前我曾經翻譯過他的DVD "Master Series"的一段話,非常感動且給我很大的能量,但之前有被盜過帳號都不見了,於是決定再找出來聽打一次重新翻譯分享給大家。
也再次謝謝 河岸留言可以邀請這麼棒的樂團來台灣!!
如果不知道Antonio Sanchez是誰的,他是Pat Metheny band的鼓手,葛萊美獎得了好幾座,同時已經得了奧斯卡等N個獎項的電影 Birdman 「鳥人」,這部整部電影配樂只有鼓聲,所有鼓也都是他錄的。
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一些來自 Antonio Sanchez 對鼓手們的金玉良言 (出自他的 “Master Series” DVD )
最後一點我想要說的是,許多關於跟音樂以及音樂家共事的態度。
嗯,當我還在成長時,我總是夢想著可以在很棒、高聳、最大的場館,跟著大型樂團,以及最棒的音樂家們一起演出。 這夢想當然很棒,但你總是要從某些名不經傳的小地方當作你的起點。
突然之間,我意識到我正在小酒吧、小俱樂部、或是某家餐館、某個婚禮場演出 — 而且沒有人在專注聽你演奏,那時我覺得很沮喪而且覺得被冒犯了,舉例來說。我以前做很多婚禮場,而且在上面演奏「熱愛105度C的你」(註一) 上百次,演奏時心裡想「我在這邊銃三小?」、「快讓我離開這吧,殺了我吧,我可以演比這個帥一百倍以上的曲目!」於是,我在演奏時只想打卡下班,就沒有把我的專注放在音樂上面。
又或者某天,我在某間小酒吧演出,正在演奏搖擺樂,或者一些我真的很喜歡的音樂風格,但沒有人在注意聽我們演奏,大家都在看大銀幕上的棒球比賽。 我就想說「好吧,反正沒人在聽,我就把我昨天練功的招式都丟進去音樂吧。」而那時我只是胡亂的丟我練過的招式,並沒有在那個音樂裡面,我也沒有在聽其他音樂家演奏了什麼,不過也許其他音樂家有聽到我做的事情。
後來,當我幸運地得到了更多演出機會,而這些場合開始需要更高的難度,我了解到我的專心程度並不足以支撐這些高強度的場合。
舉例來說,當我在九零年代晚期開始跟Niels Pedersen一起做巡迴,那是個非常高強度的演奏,它是個三重奏,每次演出的晚上,我的腦袋好像快爆炸一樣,因為我並不習慣如此需要長時間專注程度的高難度演出,我才了解到我浪費了太多時間以前演奏的時候沒有把專注力放在音樂上。
我覺得,如果你有兩隻手、兩隻腳、而且可以演奏樂器,你已經夠幸運了。而我認為如果你現在正在某間酒吧、某個餐館、或是某個婚禮場作演出,而你可以把每一場演出當作好像是全世界最棒的演出、在最大、最美麗的場館,跟著最棒的音樂家一起演出,那我認為你正走在對的路上。因為你有把你的心放在音樂裡面,而且你給這些音樂跟音樂家他們所渴望的最棒的尊重,那麼我可以向你保證接下來會有很棒的事情降臨在你身上。
這就是我想說的,非常謝謝你們今晚的蒞臨,希望我們下次可以再見。
註一:原文是說演奏「La Mecarena」,90年代的當紅歌曲。這邊為了年輕讀者,使用較貼近現在的105度C的你。
註二:Niels Pedersen 全名是 Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen (N.H.O.P.),是從70-90年代活躍的傳奇的低音提琴手,演奏速度可以超級超級快又具備非常豐富的音樂性。
英文原文,因為是用聽打的,也許有少部分錯誤
Recently I found a picture that my favorite drummer
Antonio Sanchez and his band "Migration" touring in Taipei in 2017. And few years ago I've seen his DVD and felt so inspired from these words. I decided to translate it into Chinese to share with other Chinese drummers.
There's maybe little mistakes because English is not my mother language.
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Some wise words from my all-times favorite drummer Antonio Sanchez from his DVD - "Master Series".
And the last things I wanna said, hmm, has a lot to do with attitude to work with music and musicianships. Hmm, When I was growing up, I was always dreaming of playing in a nice, tall, the biggest stadium and the biggest band with the greatest musicians in this world. And that’s great except that we all have to start somewhere. And I, all of a sudden, I was playing in a little bar, or small pub, or some restaurant, or a wedding where nobody was paying an attention. And I really felt depressed and I felt violated. And for example, I’ve been played for a wedding gig, and I would be playing “La Marcaena” for a hundred times , and I would be like “What am I doing here ?”, “Get me out of here, shoot me, this is not for me, I’m so much better than this !”
And I was not putting my heart into it at all. When the next day, I would play in some small bar, I was playing maybe swing or something that I really like, but nobody was paying an attention. Everybody was looking at the screen, the baseball game. And I would be like “Well, nobody is paying an attention, then I just gonna playing practice whatever I was working on yesterday.” And I was NOT in the moment, I was not listening to what the other guys were playing. And maybe the other guys were listening to me.
So, when I luckily started getting better and better opportunities music-wise, and the situations start getting a little more the manling. I realized that I did not have the concentration I took for me to be able to deal with some of the situations. Uh, for example when I started to play with Niels Pedersen in the late 90s, it was a very tense gig , it was just a trio, and every night I would end would headache , because I was not used to have a lot of concentration and focusing that much, for that amount of time.
I realize that I’ve wasted a lot of time not being into the music not putting my heart into it. Because, I mean I really feel like if a, you have two arms, two legs, and you are able to play , you are lucky already. And I think if you are playing in some small restaurant, or wedding, or whatever. You treat that situation like the best gig in the world in the most beautiful opera house or the biggest stadium, and you treat you felt the musicians like the greatest musicians you could play with. I think you are on the right path. You put your heart into it, and you give the music and musicians the respect they deserved. Then I can assure you really good things are gonna happen to you. So that’s it for me, thank you so much for coming, hope see you next time.
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【課表設計的科學與藝術】
分享《The System: Soviet Periodization Adapted for the American Strength Coach》書中的一段話,用簡潔直白的話語,把課表設計中的「科學」與「藝術」說得很清楚了,下面附上原文和我的譯文:
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#以下為譯文,最後附上原文,若有發現翻譯不到位或有問題的地方,非常歡迎也希望各界指正!
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在整個(設計課表的)過程中,你的心理要明白力量教練所做的是一種結合科學與藝術的工作。科學要求的是認識事務運作的原理。如果你知道訓練背後的原理,就會知道如何進步。
如果你選擇使用這份課表,但卻不知道為什麼這樣練會有效,那只是運氣好。當你想著「太棒了,我的運動員一直進步!」此時你要捫心自問「接下來我要怎麼做?」如果你不知道之前是怎麼進步的,也不知道這樣的課表為什麼會有用,那你也不會知道怎麼調整課表才能讓運動員繼續進步下去。這就是「科學」的重要性。
至於訓練的「藝術」是指一些需要考慮不同現實情況的問題,以蹲舉這個動作為例,「我們都知道蹲舉很重要,所以蹲舉要練。」但現在問題是,「我們應該先練前蹲舉、背蹲舉還是分腿蹲?該從多少重量開始蹲?每組蹲幾下?蹲幾組?該怎麼教好這個動作?」
這些問題很少有清楚、明確的答案,你的思考過程必須考慮到許多因數。這就是訓練的藝術性。如果你問五十個教練這些問題,你可能會得到五十種不同的答案,而且並非所有的答案都適合你當前的情況。
在力量與體能訓練的領域,藝術性方面的問題是教練們最需要花時間和精力去培養與完善的。要分辨一位普通教練和菁英教練的差別,就是看他是否在訓練的科學與藝術素養之間取得平衡。
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#原文如下
Throughout the process, is important to keep in mind that what we do as strength coaches is a combination of science and art. The science demands that we know why something works. That is imperative for the selection process, and if you know how something works, you will know how to progress it.
If you do not know why something works and you choose to use it, maybe you get lucky... and maybe you do not. When you think, “This is great! My athletes are getting better,” you need to ask yourself, “Where do I go from here?” If you do not know why something is working, you will not know how to progress or adapt it for continued gains. That is the importance of the science.
The art of coaching is saying to yourself, “We need to squat; we know that is important.” The question now is, “Should we front squat, back squat, or split-squat? What weight should we start with? How many sets and reps? How can I best teach this movement?”
These questions rarely come with clear, definitive answers, and your path will have to take into account the variables. This is the art of coaching. If you asked these questions of 50 coaches, you might get 50 different answers, and not all of them would be in your best interest to follow.
In the field of strength and conditioning, this is the aspect that takes the most time and commitment to develop and refine. Ultimately, cultivating balance between the art and science of coaching is what separates the elite from the average.
(extracted from page 98)
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這是阿培曾經在我巴褲的書裡面寫的,這文章是阿培本身養狗的經驗,對每個養狗的人都有很大的幫助,希望大家有時間可以把它看完,我翻譯成英文讓大家看:
Apei wrote many things into my Baku book. Mainly how to raise dogs, his life experience with dogs and about dog breeds. Its very useful information so please take a look. I translated it into English for everyone to read.
想要養全世界最大的狗,所有的大狗養過一輪,最後情定獒犬。
I wanted to raise all the big dogs available around the world. I wanted to takes turns raising all the big dogs, but I fell for Mastiff.
我從小就有個心願,要養全世界最大的狗。十幾歲開始工作,慢慢把大狗養了一輪:紐波利頓獒犬、大丹、高加索——最後才把重心放在西藏獒犬上。
Ever since when I was very young, I had a dream to raise all the big dogs available throughout the world. I started working at a very young age. Over the years, I had owned a Neapolitan Mastiff, Great Dane, Caucasian Shepherd, and finally now I am totally focused on taking care of my Tibetan Mastiff.
其實每種狗都可愛,只是養著養著,慢慢摸索出自己最喜歡的樣子——
To be honest, no matter what the breed, each dog is cute & lovable in its own way. Having own so many dogs, I slowly figured out what I like the most.
比方紐波利頓,嘴巴皮垂皺加上毛短,吃完東西不馬上擦乾淨,很容易過敏有皮膚病,照養上很費功夫。
Neapolitan Mastiff, for example, has saggy faces and very short hair. If you don’t clean him up after a meal, the dog can very easily have allergic reactions or skin diseases. It’s quite a chore taking care of this breed of dogs.
大丹漂亮修長,但我更喜歡粗勇的體型。
Great Danes are beautiful and usually possesses a lengthy body, but I like ones with a thicker and wider body.
高加索犬算是最貼近我期待的,但是,高加索犬野性比較強,對其他小狗比較不友善。
Caucasian Shepherd is perhaps a breed that is closest to my ideal type. However, shepherds are more primitive, they are not that friendly to small dogs.
至於西藏獒犬,牠忠實、對小孩、女人和小型動物又溫和——尤其是冬天,西藏獒犬換上一身長披毛,站出來威風凜凜、霸氣十足。
As far as Tibetan Mastiff goes, they are loyal, and gentle around kids, women, and other small animals. Especially during winter, a Tibetan Mastiff would change into a long fur coat, appearing so confident and proud, as if everything else is beneath them.
養到西藏獒犬,我心中就有「中」的感覺——所以一路養到現在。
When I got to owning a Tibetan Mastiff, that’s when my heart and mind went: “This is the one!” And so… I have been raising one ever since.
之前養的每隻狗,我都是養到牠們老死——大型狗的平均壽命比中小型犬還要短的許多,大概10年到15年。
All the dogs I had previously, I have always had them until they passed away peacefully in my arms due to old age. The average lifespan of large-sized dogs are usually a lot shorter than small-sized dogs. 10 -15 years, I would say, is probably the max.
要駕馭大型狗,教法是重點。我常跟人說,「狗的主人要有霸氣,要比狗兇」。從小規矩就要訂下——如果主人希望能帶大狗去散步,一定要從小帶牠出門,讓牠習慣走在你腿旁邊,讓牠早早社會化。
To manage a large-sized dog, the key is on teaching. I often tell my friends: “As a dog owner you have to be dominant, you have to be more dominant than your dog.” Show ‘em who’s the boss in the house, so to speak lol. As a dog owner if you wish to take your large dog out for a walk, you have to start taking them for a walk when they are still very small, let them get used to walking alongside you, this is basically to socialize them.
你帶領狗去散步,不是牠帶你去散步——讓牠們見多視廣,狗就不會有初見陌生事物激動暴衝的時候。
Remember tho, you are taking them for a walk, not the other way around. You have to let them see more, let them become familiarize with what’s happening on the outside. This way, it will lessen the occurrence of your dog having violent reactions to unfamiliar or unknown objects.
基本上,除非是生病,要不然狗咬人,都是基於「恐懼」。牠怕主人被攻擊,所以擺出戰鬥姿態——當然,社會化不足或主人威嚴感比較差的狗,就比較容易出在驚慌狀態下而暴衝咬人。
Basically, unless your dog is sick, a dog only starts biting people out of “fear.” They fear that his owner will be attacked, that’s why he goes into “combat mode.” Of course, a dog that is less socialized or a dog with a less dominant owner will more likely become violent (including biting) when they feel threatened or panicking.
這部分是主人的問題,比較不是狗狗本身的問題。改善了狗主人的牽法與教育狗的方式,狗的暴衝、易怒問題就可以得到改善。
This is the owner’s fault, and not on the dog. Once you improve upon the way you walk the dog and educate the dog the right away, the dog’s violent behavior and violent tendencies will show an improvement.
獒犬還有一個別稱,「栓犬」。讓獒犬待在同個地方大概30分鐘,牠就會覺得那是牠地盤,開始會對經過的路人兇,這點要特別注意。
Mastiff also goes by another name, “guardian dogs.” If you let a Mastiff stay in one place for over 30 minutes, he’ll think that this place is his place, his territory, and will starting defending it by being aggressive to passerby, this is something to be aware of.
我最常被問到的,獒犬吃很多三餐費用很高吧?
The question that I was asked the most is… “Mastiffs eat a lot, don’t they? So you must’ve spend a lot of dog food, right?”
我自己對狗比較捨得,讓牠吃好——牛肉全雞羊肉,但是也不一定要跟我一樣餵法。讓牠們吃飽,有時間去跑跑步,偶爾洗一下澡,牠們就很開心了。
I am more catering to my dog, that’s for sure. I’ll let him eat the good stuff --- beef, full chicken, lamb… But you don’t have to do it like me, tho, just feed him regularly so your dog is not hungry. If you have the time, take him for a walk or a jog, or bathe him, he is going to be really really happy if you do so.
最後要提醒的是,大型犬因為身體重腳的負擔大,狗主人最好是把牠們養在不滑的地板上,跟,6個月以前的小狗,髖關節還沒發育完全,不要讓牠們大量跑跳。這兩點注意一下,加上每天帶花時間帶牠們去散步運動,這樣就能保持牠們四隻腳的健康,減少很多腿部問題。
Lastly, I want remind everyone, as far as large dogs go, because of their huge physique they have tons of pressure on their feet, so it’s best for a dog owner to raise a large-sized dog on a non-slippery floor. Also, for a dog that is not yet 6 months old, don’t let the dog do too much jumping and running because his hip joint isn’t fully developed yet. That’s two things you should keep in mind. So as long as you take the time to walk your dog and do a bit of exercise, you’ll be able to keep their legs healthy, which will reduce a lot of the dog’s leg problems.
不管大狗小狗,牠們都是我們的家人,養了,就好好照顧牠一輩子。最後還是那句話.如何對待如何回報.
No matter big or small, a dog is family. If you got one, please take care of him/her for the rest of its life. Lastly, just want to say, You reap what you sow.
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You always keep one in your purse
你總在錢包內放枚硬幣
Just in case you get the urge
只為讓自己更有動力
So if you start to feel worse, a couple hours I'm on a plane
所以當你開始感覺不安時 幾小時內我將會搭上航班
Feeling insane
失去理智
Probably traumatised
或許會對你造成傷害
So, you say "Babe, what's with the face?"
所以你說道 "親愛的 為何你這副模樣?"
Maybe I'm drunk, maybe I'm wasted
或許我已酩酊大醉 也可能自甘墮落
And you know, I can't handle this
而你清楚 我不能很好地解決
Maybe I'm just a masochist
或許我享受著痛苦
Alright, fuck up my life
那就這樣吧 摧毀我的人生
Lie to my face, kiss me goodnight
對我說謊吧 給我晚安吻
I swear you know I can't handle this
我發誓 你很清楚我不能很好地解決
Maybe you should call your therapist
或許你該求助你的心理醫生
I do my best to stay away
我盡全力 遠離這裡
'Cause I can't save you every day
因為我不能時時刻刻拯救你
I'm waiting for the hurricane
我等待著颶風降臨
You're spinning out and I'm in the eye, dying inside
你望著我溺亡其中 逐漸遠去
Honestly terrified
實在是太恐懼了
Yеah
So, you say "Babe, what's with the face?"
所以你說道 "親愛的 為何你這副模樣?"
Maybе I'm drunk, maybe I'm wasted
或許我已酩酊大醉 也可能自甘墮落
And you know, I can't handle this
而你清楚 我不能很好地解決
Maybe I'm just a masochist
或許我享受著痛苦
Alright, fuck up my life
那就這樣吧 摧毀我的人生
Lie to my face, kiss me goodnight
對我說謊吧 給我晚安吻
I swear you know I can't handle this
我發誓 你很清楚我不能很好地解決
Maybe you should call your therapist
或許你該求助你的心理醫生
You know I can't handle this
你很清楚 我不能很好地解決
Maybe you should call your therapist
或許你該求助你的心理醫生
歌詞翻譯 : 特星
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Lyrics:
Step one, you say we need to talk
第一步 你說我們需要談一談
He walks, you say sit down; it's just a talk
他走過來 你說坐下 這只是個談話
He smiles politely back at you
他禮貌地看著你
You stare politely right on through
你也禮貌的回望著他
Some sort of window to your right
在你的右邊是一部分的窗戶
As he goes left and you stay right
當他走向左 你卻停留在右邊
Between the lines of fear and blame
在恐懼和道德的底線間
You begin to wonder why you came
你開始懷疑你為什麼要來
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
我到底做錯了什麼 就這樣失去了一個朋友
Somewhere along in the bitterness
在某處 伴隨著一些苦楚
And I would have stayed up with you all night
然而我會整晚待在你的身邊
Had I known how to save a life
如果我知道如何能拯救你
How to save a life
怎樣才能拯救你
Let him know that you know best
讓他知道你知道得最清楚
Cause after all you do know best
因為你的確知道得最清楚
Try to slip past his defense
試著去忽略掉他的防衛
Without granting innocence
不用授予無罪的方式
Lay down a list of what is wrong
用一張字條寫下做錯了什麼
The things you've told him all along
那些你由始至終告訴他的事情
And pray to God he hears you
然後向上帝祈禱他能聽見
And pray to God he hears you
向上帝祈禱他能聽見你的聲音
Where did I go wrong, I lost a friend
我到底做錯了什麼 就這樣失去了一個朋友
Somewhere along in the bitterness
在某處 伴隨著一些苦楚
And I would have stayed up with you all night
然而我會整晚待在你的身邊
Had I known how to save a life
如果我知道怎樣能拯救你
How to save a life
怎樣才能拯救你
歌詞翻譯 : 霽Jiokin
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